F-104Pro Official thread

[akura2]

Let start our discussion of Tamiya's newest F1 car

[gtypecanare]

Well, my F104 is a work in progress.....

[Railroader]

What are the major advantages of the F104 over the F103 models? We are trying to get a F1 class running at our track and I wonder if the F104 is much better. It is a very small indoor carpet track, and the F103 is currently up there is lap times with the fastest classes (ie. 1/12th).

[gtypecanare]

At the moment and things can change, the biggest advantage of the F104 over the F103 is the new diff and the sculpted body. One other advantage is for new F1 enthusiasts this platform is relatively easy to drive.

[Wyoming]

I've never had an F1 RC car but want to try one, I was going to buy the f104pro this winter so I can build it up for spring fun!

[gtypecanare]

Here is my car beofre the carnage....

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r134/gtypecanare/F104/IMG_2591.jpg

[BPSHADOW]

Here is my 104, almost ready for testing, Jaques at the wheel
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/677078.jpg

[akuntze]

Nice looking body you have. The silver wheels were a nice touch.

Always good to see someone from one of the "other boards" come over.:Tamiya1:

[BPSHADOW]

Nice looking body you have. The silver wheels were a nice touch.

Always good to see someone from one of the "other boards" come over.:Tamiya1:

Thanks Andrew, I will likely spend more time over here once it gets rolling.
More pics are on the way

[Wyoming]

wow those are nice looking machines. Going to have get one soon and then hunt for a flat spot to drive it which is going to be tricky where I live, there is gravel everywhere even on the asphalt lol!

[BPSHADOW]

Here is another car that I just finished for a customer in California, once again masterfully captured in digital by Dish!
I need to also thank rtypec for giving me a different way of going about painting these things, much faster and cleaner , thanks again Rod
Enjoy!!!!!
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/JD092341.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/DSC_3719.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/DSC_3719.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/DSC_3725.jpg

[cheehtae]

I'm waiting for the regular f104 to come out, cheaper.:common001:

[kaybo]

the F104 is really making me wish we had a F1 class by me :(

those are some really sweet paint jobs

[akuntze]

Man Brad, that is awesome!!!! I wish my F104 had a body that nice....well, right now any painted body would be better than nothing (which is what I have). Killer job!

[motorman29]

Those are some great looking F1's, If I didn't rely on the barriers to keep me going straight, I would get one...

[fat500]

AAAhhhhhhhhhh ...I have found a second home...tamiya fourms:common001::omg::common001::common001::Tamiy a1:

[akuntze]

Glad to have another new face! :D

[TimPotter]

Is the F104 Foam only ?

Thanks

[akuntze]

Coming out this winter we will have rubber tires available:
F104 Ferrari F60 with Rubber Tires (http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=58447)
F104 Mesh Wheels for Rubber Tires (http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=51398)
F104 Front Rubber Tires (http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=51399)
F104 Rear Rubber Tires (http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=51400)

[akura2]

I'm waiting for the regular f104 to come out, cheaper.:common001:

actually it will be almost the same price because it will come with the speed control...

it will be around $202... and I can get the F104 Pro for $204... and use my own electronics

[akuntze]

Well there was an error and the F60 kit (item #58447) will NOT come with an esc. The kit should be around $200, and currently the F104 Pro is $259.99 on Towerhobbies.com

[kaybo]

what's going to be the difference between the pro and the F60 kit? just the blue goodies and body?

[akuntze]

Yes, the Pro has an original Tamiya F1 body and foam tires, and the new kit will have the Ferrari F60 body with rubber tires. The Pro kit comes with these parts that the Ferrari will not:

Carbon Upper Deck
Carbon Lower Deck
TRF Damper
Carbon Rear Shaft
Carbon Friction Plate
Carbon Reinforced Friction Pads
Aluminum Diff. Housing
Aluminum Turnbuckles
Carbon Reinforced Front Uprights
Servo Saver

[gtypecanare]

Here is another car that I just finished for a customer in California, once again masterfully captured in digital by Dish!
I need to also thank rtypec for giving me a different way of going about painting these things, much faster and cleaner , thanks again Rod
Enjoy!!!!!
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/JD092341.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/DSC_3719.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/DSC_3719.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/DSC_3725.jpg

Good Stuff Brad!

[BPSHADOW]

Good Stuff Brad!

Thanks George, with all the good stuff you guys do, I had to step it up a notch.

[fat500]

we need the f60 now:busted_blue:...push up the release date Mr. Tamiya:common001:
:Tamiya1:

[chuckz]

can anyone lead me to a painted body for f104 or someone that can do these ?

chuckz:busted_blue:

[chuckz]

Here is another car that I just finished for a customer in California, once again masterfully captured in digital by Dish!
I need to also thank rtypec for giving me a different way of going about painting these things, much faster and cleaner , thanks again Rod
Enjoy!!!!!
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/JD092341.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/DSC_3719.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/DSC_3719.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/DSC_3725.jpg

I need one of these please !! to drive at NORCAL track can I get a quote ?

Chuck

[chuckz]

:busted_blue:Can I please get one of these bodies That is the best work I have seen in a long time !

chuckz

[BPSHADOW]

Chuck,
Send me a private message on here and we can discuss the particulars.
I do have some people in line waiting for their bodies, but I will do my best to accommodate you, and i do have everything in stock to do another one just like this as well as many other decal sheets.

[chuckz]

BPSHADOW ,

My email is chuck5722@hotmail.com I am very interested I will give you my phone number when you email me !! not sure how to send private message yet !

chuck

[Tuba]

Hello Guys,

Here in your championship thw new F104 don't goes well.
The best cars are F103 and HPI Formula (the old one).
Look the results table:

http://www.aarcdoabc.com.br/public/campeonatos_tabelas/AARC2009/Tabela_AARC2009_FORMULINHA.jpg

Regrads,


Tuba

[chuckz]

If the f104 is setup correctly and with the correct hop ups it can handle better than any F1 on the market !

Chuckz

[kaybo]

does anyone know what kind of adaptors the front wheels use on the f104's??

like on HPI's - that uses a hex for the front wheels...does the f104 do that as well or does it attach like a pan car front?

I normally wouldn't ask this, but i can't find a manual for the f104 online anywhere ;)

[akuntze]

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/download/pdf/rc/setting/f104pro_blank.pdf :welcome:

[BPSHADOW]

does anyone know what kind of adaptors the front wheels use on the f104's??

like on HPI's - that uses a hex for the front wheels...does the f104 do that as well or does it attach like a pan car front?

I normally wouldn't ask this, but i can't find a manual for the f104 online anywhere ;)

The fronts are just like the 103, bearings on an axle, no hex.

[kaybo]

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/download/pdf/rc/setting/f104pro_blank.pdf :welcome:

i've seen that and already downloaded it - was looking for the build manual ;)

[kaybo]

The fronts are just like the 103, bearings on an axle, no hex.

thanks! I kinda figure they went like that, but wasn't 100% sure

[akuntze]

Sorry I didn't pay attention to the link I grabbed. Try this one: http://www.tamiya.com/japan/download/rcmanual/f104pro.pdf

[kaybo]

Sorry I didn't pay attention to the link I grabbed. Try this one: http://www.tamiya.com/japan/download/rcmanual/f104pro.pdf

that works :)

thanks!

[kaybo]

has anyone tried to change out the spur gear for a 'standard' 64p gear? If so, how difficult was it mating everything back up?

will the f104 be allowed in the TCS this year?:Tamiya1:

does the f104 Pro come with the aluminum rear pods?

[chuckz]

The rear pods are an upgrade for about 21.00 I suggest you buy it before the build with the soft t plate about 12.00 that way you can assemble once !

chuck

[gtypecanare]

I'm a sucker and I bought it all!!!

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r134/gtypecanare/F104/IMG_1356.jpg

definitely buy all the hop-up especially the soft t-plate and if possible buy the gold spring
(9805921) to help the high speed wander with 200 oil in the dampner.

[hbc865]

Happy Turkey Day to all!

I'm still waiting on UltimateHobbies to get their shipment, I hope they will get the Pro version and the F60, I would like to get it all at once! :common001:

[chuckz]

Has anobody found rims for the Rubber tires that just came out for F104 ?:bangin:

[torg]

Does anyone know what kind of compound these are?

The F201 had 3 different compounds: Type A, Type B and "for the shelf" (the latter came in the kit).

[toybreaker]

The F104 comes with the Type A foams front and rear which are the softer compound. The Type B compound is a bit harder and then the new rubber tires which are to be released this month, looks like just 1 compound for the rubber tires right now. i really hope they have 2-3 compounds for the rubber tires.
I had a question too but forgot..oh well, maybe later.

Oh I remember now. Anyone have a good place to purchase decal sheets to do these bodies up real nice?

[azbmxer]

http://d-drivesportsenglish.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=8

[chuckz]

does anyone no if 201 rims fit on the 104
The F104 comes with the Type A foams front and rear which are the softer compound. The Type B compound is a bit harder and then the new rubber tires which are to be released this month, looks like just 1 compound for the rubber tires right now. i really hope they have 2-3 compounds for the rubber tires.
I had a question too but forgot..oh well, maybe later.

Oh I remember now. Anyone have a good place to purchase decal sheets to do these bodies up real nice?

[torg]

does anyone no if 201 rims fit on the 104

they do not. F201 front wheels have hex hubs because it's 4wd. F104 is rwd and use bearing in the front wheels. The rear wheels on F201 and F104 have VERY different offsets (the F201 hex hub is very close to the outside edge and the F104 is all the way on the inside. The hex is deeper on the F104 also.

I wonder if you can use F201 rubbers on F104 wheels. I have a whole box of F201 Type-A's and Type B's...

[ckaspar]

Does anyone have a good setup for the Tamiya track in Aliso Viejo? I am thinking of heading down there once I bet my 104 built.

Thanks in advance.

[akuntze]

Check out the article Dave Jun wrote about the F104. All of his tests were done at the Tamiya USA track: http://www.tamiyausa.com/articles/feature.php?article-id=442
:Tamiya1:

[torg]

But F201 tires fit on F104 rims :)

http://tamiyatorg.blogspot.com/2010/01/f201-rubber-on-f104-wheels.html

[BPSHADOW]

A sampling of the latest to come out of the F1Paintlab
Enjoy!!!

http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/toro04.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/toro01.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/bull01.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/bull03.jpg

There will be these and a few more posted at www.f1paintlab.com

[Wayne_NZ]

Damn thats wicked man nice work

[BPSHADOW]

Damn thats wicked man nice work

Thanks, they take some time, but the result is worth the effort

[akuntze]

Just stunning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tuba]

Amazing the paintjob!!:yourock:

Regards,

TUba :)

[chuckz]

BP ,
Great Work !! I think I want another one someday cant wait to see new work at the Lab !

Chuck:Tamiya1:

[BPSHADOW]

BP ,
Great Work !! I think I want another one someday cant wait to see new work at the Lab !

Chuck:Tamiya1:

Thanks Chuck, I'll be here whenever you are ready.

[kaybo]

Anyone know the difference between the 2 F104 Pro kits that are available?

TAM84106 - F104 Pro w/LW Body
TAM58431 - F104 Pro with body

i get that the 84106 includes a lightweight body - but is there any other differences in the 2 kits? I mean something that would justify a higher price I've seen it selling for online?

thanks!

[BPSHADOW]

Anyone know the difference between the 2 F104 Pro kits that are available?

TAM84106 - F104 Pro w/LW Body
TAM58431 - F104 Pro with body

i get that the 84106 includes a lightweight body - but is there any other differences in the 2 kits? I mean something that would justify a higher price I've seen it selling for online?

thanks!

I believe its just the body, and quite honestly, I dont know why you want a lightweight F1 body, but maybe im not seeing something

[akuntze]

The only difference is the LW body included. Everything else is the same as the Pro.

[kaybo]

I believe its just the body, and quite honestly, I dont know why you want a lightweight F1 body, but maybe im not seeing something

not sure why anyone would want a lightweight body either - unless you're one of those fanantics that need their cars lighter?? :D

I was just wondering if there was anything else special included in the kit since some of the write-ups I saw were 'limited edition' tag on the kit

[Mayday]

Hi, I have with the F104Pro the following problem:

when I accelerate out of the curve or give full throttle on the straight, breaking the F104Pro from the rear.
What is the reason.
The F104Pro is so assembled as it says in the manual.

As tires, I have the Type A and Type B foam rubber and rubber tires.

Sorry for my bad English, I come from Germany and use Google to translate

[kaybo]

what kind of lipo batteries are you all using in your F104??

i got a couple in my possession to choose from, but they are all banana plug packs - so i'm not really crazy about using them, even though a couple packs fit the chassis real good

any suggestions?

[akuntze]

The Orion Rocket Packs and the Reedy 3400 packs both fit very well and some with a standard Tamiya connector.

[Add]

I have just ordered a F104 pro and would to know what electrics people are running. As I want to learn to drive the car first. Keeping in mind i will be running a silver 540 motor. Lipo?

Cheers
Add

[kaybo]

i'm running a futaba servo (can't remember the model number) and a tekin B1 speedo...i'm running silver can motor and lipo as well and the B1 works like a champ!! small, light and got plenty of power for a silver can

[Bandit456]

Highs im new im just ordered a F104 ferrari 58447 and I think one of the last TA05R's 49418 on Ebay lol so Highs all. i also have a TA04R and i have not used it. im new so is a silver can better then a after market motor? i found a place RC mart a Ferrari and motor and ESC for 200.00 nice combo. and i cant stop thinking about a vintage F201.

[BobbyVegas]

Here is another car that I just finished for a customer in California, once again masterfully captured in digital by Dish!
I need to also thank rtypec for giving me a different way of going about painting these things, much faster and cleaner , thanks again Rod
Enjoy!!!!!
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/JD092341.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/DSC_3719.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/DSC_3719.jpg
http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv11/BPSHADOW/DSC_3725.jpg
Amazing work. How much would you charge to do a body set?? I ask because the IIC might be running an F1 class this year and I would like a ultra cool looking machine. PM me

[BPSHADOW]

Hey Bobby, YGPM